3-0!
It was another clear Kerry win tonight. All of the Instapolls show Kerry winning clearly except ABC which had Kerry by 1% with more republicans (8% more) than democrats. CNN had it Kerry 52-39.
On substance, this was by far the lamest debate as far as the questions go. Sheiffer should be ashamed of himself. I mean, how can you have a debate on domestic issues and not ask a single question on the environment, unless the moderator thinks that it will disadvantage his good golfing buddy, Shrub? The last question took the cake for lameness!
Dubya really blew it when he said he had never said that he was not concerned about Usama bin Laden. This will be the flub that gets repeated ad nauseum (woo hoo!) over the next few days. CNN, NBC and ABC all had clips of the Preznit during a press conference saying he really wasn't concerned about UBL. Ouch! That's gotta hurt! All the king's spin meisters won't be able to put that genie back in the bottle. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
I also found it interesting that Dubya didn't really answer many of the questions. The worst example was the jobs question that he turned into a treatise on No Child Left Behind. WTF?! How is NCLB relevant to jobs for the +800k people who have lost theirs during his administration? Basically, the tone of his response was "if you lost your job, it's because you're stupid". That won't gain him any votes in the rust belt.
Kerry did himself a favor by tweaking his Iraq war cost point, saying that it is $120B so far and will be $200B next year and more before it's over. That addresses one of his fact-check faux pas and at the same time, makes the point that the number he used in the previous debates wasn't really wrong as has been positioned by some pundits.
Overall, Kerry was presidential, Shrub was defensive (and what was with the foaming at the mouth for the first 20 minutes?) Dubya did himself no favors pounding on the podium like Nikita Kruschev early on in the debate. I guess like the previous debate, his meds hadn't fully kicked in.
On a completely unrelated note...
GO YANKS! Woo hoo! 2 games to none over the Boston Red Losers:-)It ain't over til it's over, but 3-0 in the debates (4-0 if you count the VP debate) and 2-0 for the NY Yankees works for me. A good night for the good guys.
On substance, this was by far the lamest debate as far as the questions go. Sheiffer should be ashamed of himself. I mean, how can you have a debate on domestic issues and not ask a single question on the environment, unless the moderator thinks that it will disadvantage his good golfing buddy, Shrub? The last question took the cake for lameness!
Dubya really blew it when he said he had never said that he was not concerned about Usama bin Laden. This will be the flub that gets repeated ad nauseum (woo hoo!) over the next few days. CNN, NBC and ABC all had clips of the Preznit during a press conference saying he really wasn't concerned about UBL. Ouch! That's gotta hurt! All the king's spin meisters won't be able to put that genie back in the bottle. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
I also found it interesting that Dubya didn't really answer many of the questions. The worst example was the jobs question that he turned into a treatise on No Child Left Behind. WTF?! How is NCLB relevant to jobs for the +800k people who have lost theirs during his administration? Basically, the tone of his response was "if you lost your job, it's because you're stupid". That won't gain him any votes in the rust belt.
Kerry did himself a favor by tweaking his Iraq war cost point, saying that it is $120B so far and will be $200B next year and more before it's over. That addresses one of his fact-check faux pas and at the same time, makes the point that the number he used in the previous debates wasn't really wrong as has been positioned by some pundits.
Overall, Kerry was presidential, Shrub was defensive (and what was with the foaming at the mouth for the first 20 minutes?) Dubya did himself no favors pounding on the podium like Nikita Kruschev early on in the debate. I guess like the previous debate, his meds hadn't fully kicked in.
On a completely unrelated note...
GO YANKS! Woo hoo! 2 games to none over the Boston Red Losers:-)It ain't over til it's over, but 3-0 in the debates (4-0 if you count the VP debate) and 2-0 for the NY Yankees works for me. A good night for the good guys.
posted by Chris at
Thursday, October 14, 2004
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